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Post by wiesyfan on Oct 20, 2011 10:44:01 GMT -5
That seems right...and while it wasn't the finish we fans had hoped for, the fact that she went even par the rest of the round and didn't fall apart is a great thing...also, I don't know about her money situation, but my guess is she doesn't need the money the way some other players might...so 8th or 18th matters little to her...might as well go for the win...take chances...I like that...[/quote]
Yes, she doesn't need the money like other players, but there's more than money at stake. There's ranking points, Solheim points, and standing on the money list. The higher she places the more points and higher she would be on money list.
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Post by wiesyfan on Oct 20, 2011 11:14:22 GMT -5
I was wondering if people saw that Michelle was using two putting strokes during this tournament? Sometimes she anchored the putter to her stomach and other times she was anchoring it to her left arm (like how she's been doing since I believe the British Open). Was I seeing things or did others see this also?
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Post by smiller on Oct 20, 2011 17:54:00 GMT -5
I saw that too, seems like she used the claw grip for shorter putts
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Post by smiller on Oct 20, 2011 17:59:08 GMT -5
On the earlier topic of not knowing what happened on the second hole, this is really a big shortcoming of the LPGA, no putting statistics, you would expect that the last five groups on the last day would have a blogger/reporter assigned to get some idea of what is happening, a threesome of Paula, Suzann and Michelle calls for more information..
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Post by LoJo on Oct 20, 2011 19:32:45 GMT -5
I saw that too, seems like she used the claw grip for shorter putts Hmmm..... I didn't see that because I didn't really watch all that much of the tourney. I don't like that MDubs is going back and forth between all this putting style. It's like if "this" doesn't work, let's try "that." She needs to get serious about her putting and stop experimenting. Bite the bullet and get with someone who can help her. Obviously, it didn't work out with Stockton for whatever reason. Surely there's someone or some technique out there that can get that part of her game up to par with the rest of it. |
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Post by wiesyfan on Oct 23, 2011 12:49:27 GMT -5
I saw that too, seems like she used the claw grip for shorter putts Hmmm..... I didn't see that because I didn't really watch all that much of the tourney. I don't like that MDubs is going back and forth between all this putting style. It's like if "this" doesn't work, let's try "that." She needs to get serious about her putting and stop experimenting. Bite the bullet and get with someone who can help her. Obviously, it didn't work out with Stockton for whatever reason. Surely there's someone or some technique out there that can get that part of her game up to par with the rest of it. Well, she said putting for her is a personal thing and she needs to figure it out herself. Not sure if that's the best solution or not, we'll have to continue to wait and see. Is there any other good putting teachers? The only ones who seem to be well-known are the Stocktons. |
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Post by LoJo on Oct 23, 2011 16:51:56 GMT -5
Hmmm..... I didn't see that because I didn't really watch all that much of the tourney. I don't like that MDubs is going back and forth between all this putting style. It's like if "this" doesn't work, let's try "that." She needs to get serious about her putting and stop experimenting. Bite the bullet and get with someone who can help her. Obviously, it didn't work out with Stockton for whatever reason. Surely there's someone or some technique out there that can get that part of her game up to par with the rest of it. Well, she said putting for her is a personal thing and she needs to figure it out herself. Not sure if that's the best solution or not, we'll have to continue to wait and see. Is there any other good putting teachers? The only ones who seem to be well-known are the Stocktons. Here's an article from Golf Digest about putting "gurus" for tour players. It's a rather drawn out article, and technical. Wie is mentioned a few times, including having worked with Stockton and Dave Pelz. Also, there's a mention about Stan Utley and Wie. www.golfdigest.com/magazine/2010-08/guru-wars?currentPage=1A coupla exerpts from the article: From Utley: Utley's active students are Kevin Streelman, Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano, Amanda Blumenherst and Paige Mackenzie. Utley mentions that before Wie left Stockton to go to Pelz, he had been asked by Wie's camp if he had an interest in working with her.
"Sure, I have feelings about it, but I'm a tour player, and I've done the same things to other teachers," Utley says. "Bottom line, tour players are looking for what they think is going to work best right now, and it's easy to go with who's hot. I've been there, but my teaching buddies who have all been around tell me it will come and go, and sometimes it's going to go. It's a wave." From Stockton: After Morgan Pressel encouraged Wie to see Stockton, they spent two days working together in California. Stockton opened Wie's stance and pared down and sped up her pre-shot routine. Wie's play at the subsequent Solheim Cup was inspired, and in November she got her first LPGA victory.
"I was really excited, because I knew I had bonded with her right off the bat, just like with Phil," Stockton says. "I was really looking forward to working with her this year, but I didn't hear anything after she won in Mexico. I saw her briefly, but we didn't get together. When I asked her mother, 'I hope I didn't do anything wrong,' she said, 'Oh, no, no, everything's fine,' and was very friendly. So it's just bizarre, because how can you argue with the results? I mean, for Michelle, putting and short game are absolutely the key." |
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Post by wiefan on Oct 24, 2011 3:53:47 GMT -5
Hi ya folks....lemme ask something...it seems like everyone seems to think it is her "mechanics" that is wrong with her putting....I am wondering if everything actually boils down to her "Reading of the putt"....it seems like when she is putting well, her stroke is good and she is a very decent putter....when she is putting badly, a lot of times it is because the green is "tricky" and the correct speed is confusing her ( example...putting it THROUGH the break instead of dying it to the hole)
the reason I say this is because a LOT of times her ball just misses by a smidge...her stroke looks good, but the ball just didn't go into the cup
I used to watch Wiesy practice putting a lot of times...and folks, she is a pretty darn good putter in my biased opinion
anyway...this is what I think....her reading of putts could be the problem behind her putting woes and not necessarily her putting mechanics...just my opinion
anyway...have a great day folks...see ya
personally, if I had to suggest a teacher for Wiesy, I would suggest that she ask Brad Faxon if he could give a few lessons...now this guy can PUTT...anyway...see ya!!
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Post by wiesyfan on Oct 24, 2011 15:46:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the article. So no actual falling out btw Michelle and Stockton. Guess she really just wants to figure it out herself. Hmm we'll see what happens.
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Post by wiesyfan on Oct 24, 2011 16:07:24 GMT -5
Hi ya folks....lemme ask something...it seems like everyone seems to think it is her "mechanics" that is wrong with her putting....I am wondering if everything actually boils down to her "Reading of the putt"....it seems like when she is putting well, her stroke is good and she is a very decent putter....when she is putting badly, a lot of times it is because the green is "tricky" and the correct speed is confusing her ( example...putting it THROUGH the break instead of dying it to the hole) the reason I say this is because a LOT of times her ball just misses by a smidge...her stroke looks good, but the ball just didn't go into the cup I used to watch Wiesy practice putting a lot of times...and folks, she is a pretty darn good putter in my biased opinion anyway...this is what I think....her reading of putts could be the problem behind her putting woes and not necessarily her putting mechanics...just my opinion anyway...have a great day folks...see ya personally, if I had to suggest a teacher for Wiesy, I would suggest that she ask Brad Faxon if he could give a few lessons...now this guy can PUTT...anyway...see ya!! Her stroke to me looks less mechanical with the long putter, which is good. Yes, she probably miss some putts due to not reading it correctly, but she's still missing too many short putts. Nobody can make all their putts, but she needs to figure out a way to be more consistent. I'd love for her to agressively putt all her putts, kindof like Yani. I think she putts defensively too much of the time and comes up short, probably because she's afraid of missing the putt coming back, which shows she doesn't have much confidence in her putting. When you don't have confidence you're not going to make many putts. When she's agressive, it seem like she makes more putts. I think she can also learn alot from Steve Stricker or Luke Donald. They are really great putters. |
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Post by wiesyfan on Oct 24, 2011 16:10:32 GMT -5
On the earlier topic of not knowing what happened on the second hole, this is really a big shortcoming of the LPGA, no putting statistics, you would expect that the last five groups on the last day would have a blogger/reporter assigned to get some idea of what is happening, a threesome of Paula, Suzann and Michelle calls for more information.. I wish the LPGA could get the same technology as the PGA. It would be fantastic to see shot by shot and see how far each shot/putt was. |
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